1st August 1998Up until now I have been word-processing all of my files for EUG using View on an Electron, but now I have changed to using View on a BBC Master which I have recently managed to get second hand. The problem is that I haven't got any manuals for the Master version, and the function keys in View seem completely different to those on the Elk version (the M128 uses combinations of SHIFT, CTRL and the f-keys, as opposed to FUNC). I've been able to work out some of the function keys by trial and error - but someone must have a manual out there somewhere! Can anyone fill me in on the function key combinations?
Another question. As we all know, the value of PAGE is increased when a disk filing system is attached to the BBC or the Elk (but not the Master). I am under the impression that the maximum it reaches is &1D00 on the Elk with ADFS, but I noticed that some of the scripts I had produced in View with PAGE at &1D00 had to be split into two parts to go on the EUG disk. What is the maximum length that View files should be to go onto EUG as a single file before splits are required?
A while back I was thinking about submitting a diagram to EUG and decided to try out the Diagram program published in EUG #16. After having spent about half an hour going through EUG disks trying to find it, I began to think that newer readers probably might not know of its existence. Other members could well have forgotten about it. Perhaps it should be put onto an EUG disk every now and then as the "official" EUG diagram drawing program - that way more people might think to include illustrations with letters and articles. Needless to say, looking back over the old EUGs was an interesting experience, especially since it was a circuit diagram that I wanted to draw. I came across Richard Dimond's adaptation of CAD+, which did the job better than Diagram would have done!
Dominic Ford
I published an article in EUG #38 about View which had the f-key definitions for the Master. Here they are again:
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VIEW | f0 | f1 | f2 | f3 | f4 | f5 | f6 | f7 | f8 | f9
|formt|top |bottm|delete|goto |goto |insert|delete|insert|delete
|para |of |of |to end|begin|end |line |line |char |char
| |text |text |line |line |line | | | |
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f key|move |swap |margn|delete|high |high |goto |set |edit |delete
+ |block|case | | to |light|light|marker|marker|comnd |comnd
SHIFT| | | | char | 1 | 2 | | | |
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f key|delet|next |formt|justif|insrt|ruler|split |join |mark |
+ |block|match|mode |mode |/over| |line |line |as |
CTRL | | | | | type| | | |ruler |
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In answer to your second question, there is a maximum size for an EUG text file but it is easier if you simply type pages and page of text all filled with interesting things and written in a prose style that would capture the admiration of Shakespeare then leave it to me to split up.
Diagram was originally published to illustrate submissions but didn't catch on as well as I'd hoped. Mainly because it tried to be too much. Richard's CAD+ program was, as you say, excellent (like most of his stuff!). I for one still use it now and again. One thing which I do have trouble with though, and you may be able to help here, is designing the new CAD+ character sets.
Gus Donnachaidh, EUG #39
